BigDMcGee knows nothing - NOTHING - about the psychiatric industry.

[SkyNigger]

Thankfully, I am here to help.

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/stigmatizing-resistance-to-authority/
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Stigmatizing Resistance to Authority
The medicalization of rebellion.

In 1861 Samuel A. Cartwright, an American physician, described a mental illness he called “drapetomania.” As Wikipedia points out, the term derived from drapetes, Greek for “runaway [slave],” and mania for madness or frenzy.

Thus Cartwright defined drapetomania as “the disease causing negroes to run away [from captivity].”

“[I]ts diagnostic symptom, the absconding from service, is well known to our planters and overseers,” Cartwright wrote in a much-distributed paper delivered before the Medical Association of Louisiana. Yet this disorder was “unknown to our medical authorities.”

Dysaethesia Too

The identification of drapetomania is not Cartwright’s only achievement. He also “discovered” “dysaethesia aethiopica, or hebetude of mind and obtuse sensibility of body—a disease peculiar to negroes—called by overseers, ‘rascality.’” Unlike drapetomania, dysatheisa afflicted mainly free blacks. “The disease is the natural offspring of negro liberty–the liberty to be idle, to wallow in filth, and to indulge in improper food and drinks.”

Have things changed much since Cartwright’s day? You decide.

The current edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) list Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) under “disorders usually first diagnosed infancy, childhood, or adolescence.” According to the manual,

The essential feature of Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant, disobedient, and hostile behavior toward authority figures that persist for at least six months. It is characterized by the frequent occurrence of at least four of the following behaviors: losing temper, arguing with adults, actively defying or refusing to comply with the requests or rules of adults, deliberately doing things that will annoy other people, blaming others for his or her own mistakes or misbehavior, being touchy or easily annoyed by others, being angry and resentful, or being spiteful and vindictive.

Marked on a Curve

In diagnosing this disorder, children are marked on a curve. “To qualify for [ODD], the behaviors must occur more frequently than is typically observed in individuals of comparable age and developmental level” (emphasis added). The behaviors must also be seen to impair “social, academic, and occupational functioning.”

The parallel with drapetomania is ominous. Children, after all, are in a form of captivity and as they get older may naturally resent having decisions made for them. They may especially dislike being confined most days in stifling government institutions allegedly dedicated to education (“public schools”). Some may rebel, becoming vexatious to the authorities.

Is that really a mental, or brain, disorder? PubMed Health, a website of the National Institutes of Health, discusses treatment and prevention in ways that suggest the answer is no. “The best treatment for the child is to talk with a mental health professional in individual and possibly family therapy. The parents should also learn how to manage the child’s behavior” (emphasis added), it says, adding, “Medications may also be helpful.”

As for prevention, it says, “Be consistent about rules and consequences at home. Don’t make punishments too harsh or inconsistent. Model the right behaviors for your child. Abuse and neglect increase the chances that this condition will occur.”

Strange Illness

It seems strange that an illness can be treated by talk and prevented by good parenting. And how was four arrived at as the minimum number of behaviors before diagnosis? Or six months as the minimum period? Odd, indeed.

While ODD is discussed with reference to children, one suspects it wouldn’t take much to extend it to adults who “have trouble with authority.” Surely one is not cured merely with the passing of adolescence. Adults are increasingly subject to oppressive government decision-making almost as much as children. Soviet psychiatry readily found this disorder in dissidents. Let’s not forget that the alliance of psychiatry and State permits people innocent of any crime to be confined and/or drugged against their will.

It seems that the common denominator of what are called mental (or brain) disorders is behavior that bothers others which those others wish to control. Why assume such behavior is illness? Isn’t this rather a category mistake? Why stigmatize a rebellious child with an ODD “diagnosis”?

No one believes drapetomania is a disease anymore. Slaves had a good reason to run away. We all have reasons–not diseases–for “running away.”

[SkyNigger]

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/remembering-masturbatory-insanity/

Remembering Masturbatory Insanity
Psychiatry Is Based on Popular Delusions

Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds
The contemporary mental health movement—epitomized by the dogmatic belief that “mental illness is like any other illness”—is an instance of what Charles Mackay called a “crowd madness.” It is in the very nature of such a popular delusion that, while it rages, it is impervious to criticism. The belief’s overwhelming popularity and the absence of authoritative opposition to it are viewed as proof of its validity.

Long ago I became persuaded that it is not possible to understand modern psychiatric practices unless they are seen as manifestations of a popular madness; and that it is not possible to perceive them in such a light without being familiar with the history of psychiatry, which furnishes ample evidence to compromise its moral and scientific pretensions. Here, I shall briefly retell the story of what, until relatively recently, had been the most commonly diagnosed and most enthusiastically treated mental disease in the history of medicine, namely, masturbation.

Masturbation was—and, in principle, remains—the ideal mental illness. First, it is a form of behavior: that is, something people do, not something that happens to them. Second, it is a form of behavior universal to mankind, engaged in from early childhood*: this makes it ideally treatable, since behaviors can be controlled, especially in children who are powerless to resist the well-intentioned brutality of adults. Third, the act makes use of a sexual organ, ideally suited for attaching fantasies of great harm (as well as great pleasure) to its uses and abuses.

* Actually, masturbation occurs in utero as well.

Not surprisingly, masturbation is a disease of modernity. In antiquity and the Dark Ages, people worried about real diseases, such as the plague and consumption. Only after the Enlightenment did people awaken to the possibilities of scientific medicine, assigning material (physical), rather than spiritual (religious), causes to disease, disability, and death.

Not having the faintest idea what caused most diseases, the medical mind went in search of a scapegoat and found it in self-abuse. By the end of the 1700s, it was medical dogma that masturbation caused blindness, epilepsy, gonorrhea, tabes dorsalis, priapism, constipation, conjunctivitis, acne, painful menstruation, nymphomania, impotence, consumption, anemia, and of course insanity, melancholia, and suicide.

How did physicians know and why did people believe that masturbation caused all these diseases? The same way that physicians now know and people believe that chemical imbalances cause mental diseases, such as attention deficit disorder: by “diagnosing” and “treating” the (involuntary, child) “patient” and by discovering “cures” for the disease. Among the widely accepted treatments of masturbation, the most important were restraining devices and mechanical appliances, circumcision, cautery of the genitals, clitoridectomy, and castration. As recently as 1936, a widely used pediatric textbook recommended some of these methods.

Who were the beneficiaries of these medical miracles? Children and the insane—then, as now, the two groups of ideal (involuntary) “patients.” Powerless vis-à -vis their relatives and doctors, minors and mental patients could not resist being fitted with grotesque appliances, encased in plaster of Paris, having their genitalia cauterized or denervated, or being castrated—for their own good.

Error or Arrogance?
The contemporary reader is likely to dismiss masturbation-as-disease as a medical mistake. However, scientific errors, especially obvious ones, are usually soon detected and corrected.

Young males always experienced and displayed nocturnal emissions, the manifestations of normal pubertal male genital physiology. What, in the eighteenth century, made nocturnal emissions turn into the dreaded “symptoms” of dangerous “spermatorrhea”? The same thing that has turned youthful male exuberance into the dreaded symptoms of dangerous attention deficit disorder in our day: parental annoyance and anxiety combined with medical imperialism and furor therapeuticus. Today, diagnosing ADD and prescribing Ritalin are big business. A hundred years ago, it was big business to diagnose “spermatorrhea” and “treat” it with spike-lined rings. For a glimpse into this aspect of the medical-economics of the anti-masturbation business, the reader may consult the facsimile catalogue of the 1898 American Armamentarium Chirurgicum—which contains pictures and prices of many anti-masturbation devices.

Belief in masturbatory insanity and its treatment with castration and clitoridectomy was not an innocent error. This belief—like beliefs in other popular delusions—enhanced the identity and self-concept of the believers. Ostensibly, such beliefs assert facts; actually, they credential believers.

Henry Maudsley, the acknowledged founder of British psychiatry, stated: “The sooner he [the masturbator] sinks to his degraded rest, the better for the world which is well rid of him.” For this and similar views he was hailed as a great humanitarian: A famed psychiatric institute in London is named after him. For Freud, too, sexual behaviors of all kinds, especially masturbation, were manifestations of maladies of which he was a master diagnostician and therapist.

As recently as 1938, Karl Menninger—the undisputed dean of American psychiatry in mid-century—declared: “In the unconscious mind, it [masturbation] always represents an aggression against someone.”

None of psychiatry’s classic mistakes—from masturbatory insanity and its cures, to the disease of homosexuality and its compulsory treatment with “aversion therapy,” and to the attribution of the cause of schizophrenia to reverberating circuits in the frontal lobes and its cure with lobotomy (rewarded with a Nobel Prize in Medicine)—are “innocent” errors. Invariably, the false belief and the medical interventions it appears to justify serves the needs of the believers, especially the relatives of “patients” who seek control over the misbehavior of their “loved ones,” and the physicians who gain prestige and power by “diagnosing” and “treating” misbehavior as if it were disease.

We fool ourselves if we believe that psychiatry’s current popular delusions—such as the chemical causes and cures of depression, schizophrenia, suicide, and so forth—do not fit the same mold.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with the symptom of being Catholic.

Detected illnesses: 0

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with the symptom of being in love.

Detected illnesses: 0

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with your child, who is no longer a "good boy".

Medication prescribed: Anti-Psychotics, for the child.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office for a checkup. Some trouble sleeping. Work has been stressful of late.

Medication prescribed: placebo SSRIs.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with the symptom of being unable to sleep at night because your wife has left you, your business is going bankrupt, your children are whores and your mother recently passed away.

Medication prescribed: Ambien.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with the symptom of being unable to sleep at night because your government has been taken over by warlords who kill anyone who threatens their ability to wage war. Ask for Ambien.

Medication prescribed: placebo SSRIs. Anti-psychotics. Ambien rejected. You could hurt yourself...!

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with your unwillingness to respond to a military draft.

Ask for an evaluation that recommends against sending you to die in a slave war. Request denied. You must go and kill and die.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office and make a citizen's arrest for crimes against humanity.

Bib provided for the drool.

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[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with migrane headaches induced as a result of dehydration. Do not disclose your dehydration.

Medication prescribed: placebo SSRIs. Anti-psychotics. Benzodiazepines.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with a clown mask on your face. Explain that you cannot show your face in public unless you paint it.

Medication prescribed: Benzodiazepines.

[SkyNigger]

Present at a psychiatrist's office with makeup on your face. Explain that you cannot show your face in public unless you paint it.

Detected illnesses: 0

[MistaCobalina]

Why are you attacking me in the title? That's pretty much the reason I didn't get a masters/doctorate in the field is I realized what a confidence scheme much of the therapeutic end of it is.

[Statutory Ape]

Why are you attacking me in the title? That's pretty much the reason I didn't get a masters/doctorate in the field is I realized what a confidence scheme much of the therapeutic end of it is.

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[SkyNigger]

Why are you attacking me in the title? That's pretty much the reason I didn't get a masters/doctorate in the field is I realized what a confidence scheme much of the therapeutic end of it is.

I don't attack, old boy.

This was supposed to be the counter-balance to my calling you one of the finest minds of our generation in another thread.

But that post was too long, or I forgot, or something.

Anyway, they're all filthy criminals. Every - single - one.

I read about some that refuse to take involuntary patients, and whatnot. I understand what they think they're doing. I've read about psychiatrists who don't even like to be called doctors or psychiatrists; but of course, in a monopoly, one must be pragmatic when it comes to legally - treating - patients. So they'd have you not call them doctor, whilst they operate as a doctor of the brain. I read about some that don't even like to prescribe placebos! You know, on account of them being worse than placebos. 1/4 of SSRI victims go downhill. ROFL. Placebo? I suspect not.

I know what all these 'good' ones think they're doing. But they're not - doing - good. They're doing very bad. It's what 'good' people do when they want to be 'bad'. They get into bed with evil. And evil wins.

Because you cannot have your cake, and eat it too.

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[SkyNigger]

Oh if you were confused about why I'm talking to - you - about the psychiatric industry, it's because you held out hopes or something for the industry to come good - or something - in another thread.

But you were wrong.

Because research is expensive. It costs money. How do you make money? Clue: Despite what economists would have you believe, it's more or less a zero-sum game.

You have to provide a product or a service. People have to pay you for what you're doing.

Imbeciles in this world do not PAY for cures.

They pay for pain to go away, intermittently.

There is no MONEY to be made in preventing pain. You can only make money by 'treating' it. Make the pain go away, and you lose your customer. Make the pain worse, and you gain a customer for life. You have to manage pain to make money.

What kind of manager would ever put themselves out of a job?

There are doctors who are physicians. I have met one. She went bankrupt because she was one of the finest humans that ever lived, and she saved my life. I made a million dollars after she saved my life by saving my career. It's not that I was living for poker so much as I had nothing else to do. And so I - did - poker non-stop because I was a winner who Wins. Period. It's what those driven by pain do.

She let me make a million dollars and she - flatly - refused to accept another cent on top of the $120 she charged me for three (3) 45 min sessions. I walked into her humble studio because I walked past it one day near where I lived, in the trendy nightclubbing district of Brisbane's inner city - right next to the CBD. These details are important because how else could she treat people, if she was not located in a high-traffic area? She would have to spam letterboxes, pay for expensive media marketing campaigns, or go bankrupt waiting for word-of-mouth to get around.

I'm certain she understood very little about any of these things. She was a physician; and she had no interest in COMMERCE. Why would she be interested in making money, if all she wanted to do was heal people? The two are mutually exclusive.

Knowing she wanted to be somewhere where people would see her shop and walk in so she could treat them, she took out a small rental studio on Brunswick St in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley. And this was very fortunate for me, because I walked into her shop with something like $1200 in T-shirts (so like, five) in a bag. I had bought them on a whim. And walking home, I noticed her studio. Well that's not true, I noticed her. Then I noticed her studio. And I thought, "eh, I have nothing else to do". I walked in and told her about my wrists and gave her the extent of my treatment history and explained that I would be going into theater in a few weeks; so I didn't expect anything, basically.

She winced three times. Once when I told her about the strapping. Once when told her about the two surgeries I had missed. And once - the most pronounced - when I informed her that I would be going into theater, after all.

She didn't like to speak ill of people. I don't have that problem; and yes, it is a character flaw that many people have. This is a world of evil and misery. And those responsible for it need to be spoken about, or they'll just keep doing it for ever. No one LIKES to speak ill of people except the mentally deranged. I simply don't have the problem of NOT LIKING to speak ill of the mentally deranged.

She had a character flaw, but I'm not a moron. I know what wincing means. I was intrigued. Did she know something I didn't, about these professionals who were unable to provide me with pain relief?

She didn't answer my question, which was wrong obviously. Instead her face brightened and she said, "So we have three weeks?"

We did.

She only needed one. That's one session, and I didn't cancel my theater appointment because FUCK THOSE BUTCHERS. They can fucking wait for me not to show. She only needed one session and I only needed one week of her exercises to know so very dark truths about Evil. I did not have the range of idiotic ailments they claimed might be causing the pain.

They did not - fail - to treat my medical problem. Hah. No.

Within a week, I knew they created the pain intentionally.

Within three weeks, 95% of the pain was gone; at which point, I tried to book a fourth $40 appointment - I was almost crying, in relief - and she said NO.

I did not - need - her anymore. She said "NO, SAVE YOUR MONEY. There is nothing I can do for you anymore that you cannot do yourself. Continue with the exercises and you will have 100% recovery."

She wasn't lying. I am 100% 'recovered'. The problem was not what the CRIMINALS 'theorised'. It was so simple, really. The stablising muscles in my wrist - tiny little things - had been over-exerted. I did not need to rest them. I did not need the strapping. On the contrary; both those things would only make the problem WORSE. It's not even complex. I needed to build them up. I needed to strengthen them. They needed to stabilise my wrists and they were deficient.

The strapping simply delivered - somewhat predictable - atrophy.

I had strapped wrists for eight months of ever-increasing pain.

It's very easy to make money in the Valley. All you have to do is sell fake pain relief. Alcohol. Pizzas. Designer clothes. Gambling. But rents are high. She went bankrupt so fast, it caught me by surprise; but I was not thinking about any of these things. I just wanted to express my gratitude for her SAVING me from CRIMINALS. $120 seemed horrifyingly low. It seemed unfair. I'd spent something like $30,000 all up on medical 'treatment'. The final $120 cured me. The previous $ all but killed me.

I told this story on ThaiVisa and nobody liked it. Which is strange; it's only possibly the most important story anyone could ever read. On ThaiVisa, I explained my fury at the CRIMINALS who took advantage of my inability to see their VILE INSANITY coming; and I explained I consulted criminal barristers and solicitors who had a great deal of experience in litigation. I had a million dollars I had no use for, and I wanted BLOOD.

The lawyers understood. They told me they couldn't take my money, because what I wanted was not possible to achieve.

"The physiotherapy industry has more money", one explained to me. "This is not about justice, there is no such thing. This is about money, and a million dollars is a lot but compared to what they have, it is NOTHING. You cannot win this fight. You will lose; and you will lose badly."

I understood, immediately. It's what I do when someone explains something to me.

As I pondered, he added a truth I had failed to see in my Catholic Toddler narcissistic oblivion. He said, "Do you think you are the first victim of these industries?"

No, I didn't. But I had not been doing thinking right.

The reason I especially wanted to go after the physios, who took something like 28,000 from me - for the 'treatment' which was provably malicious, but then courts don't operate that way - was because I suspected the surgeons (who I considered KILLING - fuck off with your 'moralistic' idiocy) might be untouchable, from a legal standpoint. How can you prove that they should not have cut you up, after they cut you up? You cannot. It's almost impossible. How could I prove I didn't have Carpal Tunnel if they've sliced open my metacarpals to 'relieve' the pressure that did not exist?

The only way you could prove it, might be if - for example - three surgeons booked you into theater (their gall is horrifying, they don't wait for your decision - they just book you in because they are gods who KNOW everything there is to know about medical knowledge) after claiming that you had a fabricated illness which required them to slice your body open and damage it, irreparably; only for you to miss all three operations and instead discover they were all brazenly lying.

But courts don't work that way. Logic is of no use in the criminal justice system.

I did not have Carpal Tunnel syndrome. Almost no one ever does. I understand perfectly how people are made to believe they have this nonsense syndrome; the pain is INDESCRIBABLE. As the physios wrapped my wrists tighter and tighter, the periods of 'merciful', pain 'relieving' sleep grew shorter and shorter; and by the time I walked into a little Swedish chick's "Physio / Chiro / Sports Remedial Holistic Clinic" - because she was fucking hot (what would a pretty blonde in her early 20's know that the finest specialists and surgeons in Brisbane didn't?) - I was on the brink of a very sane suicide.

I could not sleep. My strapped wrists and my arms had to be strapped to the bed, because if I moved them whilst sleeping...it would be unfair to neighbours; one of whom, very rationally, called the police because I was getting murdered. They heard the screaming.

I had no idea how true that was. I was getting murdered, by those who I was paying for medical treatment. They say Money Cannot Buy You Happiness, but I don't know why they say that when the truth is, Money Cannot Even Buy You Pain Relief.

Money Will Only Buy You More Pain.

If you cannot understand why, you should hoard some in this world of INSANITY and, unless you enjoy the horrifying SCREAMING of the 'NEEDY' - who Want Things (because they're in pain and the billboard suggested that if they buy this or that product, it could be pain relieving or even bring happiness) - you will SCREAM in pain, because they will bring their misery to you no matter how exclusive your VIP section is, no matter how far into the sea you sail your yacht, no matter how secure your luxury building is - you cannot run from them. You cannot hide from them. You cannot block out the world of SCREAMING.

They are in pain.

You have their imagined pain relief.

By god, they will SCREAM. And there is nothing you can do about it.

It is impossible to make money by healing people. It is impossible to conduct effective research into cures, because who PAYS for it?

The thread title should read, "Humans know nothing - NOTHING - about humanity."

All they know is their pain. And they already - know - everything; and so, this world had better get used to more and more pain. The screaming is so loud now, you almost cannot hear yourself THINK. But I understand yall like unsolicited Spam. It saves you from Thinking, which hurts. Oww.

But all I hear are screams.

[MistaCobalina]

No, you misunderstood me. I don't think much of psychology, as a commercial industry. But I do think scientific examination of the brain and human behavior has a great deal of utility and potential.

[Statutory Ape]

as a man who many times has been the benefactor to Cobsons powers of introspection I am very grateful he chose his particular path of higher education. he might be the only man who has successfully talked me down of the ledge, more than once actually. You might all be deprived of my mania and grapeness were it not for this man, thats the cold hard truth.

[MistaCobalina]

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[Bobby Wong]

i dont know what yall are talking about but cobsons degree is in livestock management from the university of nebraska kids a third generation husker

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[SkyNigger]

No, you misunderstood me. I don't think much of psychology, as a commercial industry. But I do think scientific examination of the brain and human behavior has a great deal of utility and potential.

Of course it does. We know literally NOTHING about the human brain.

But who is going to do this scientific examination?

Who is going to pay for it to be done?

The only research that ever gets done is commissioned by commercial enterprise or governments. And they are NOT going to commissioning research that has no COMMERCIAL application or 'value'. The former is only interested in profit. The latter is only interested in power.

Sane people are very hard to manipulate and control. Governments aren't remotely interested in making people less insane.

[Statutory Ape]

Of course it does. We know literally NOTHING about the human brain.

But who is going to do this scientific examination?

Who is going to pay for it to be done?

The only research that ever gets done is commissioned by commercial enterprise or governments. And they are NOT going to commissioning research that has no COMMERCIAL application or 'value'. The former is only interested in profit. The latter is only interested in power.

Sane people are very hard to manipulate and control. Governments aren't remotely interested in making people less insane.

You just did a fantastic job espousing the virtues of wonderful, beautiful, Capitalism my friend.

And here I fancied you a communist of some sort, shame on me. You could only be a capitalist.

Why are you living in thailand again? The states (and your future) beckon, my friend.

[SkyNigger]

You just did a fantastic job espousing the virtues of wonderful, beautiful, Capitalism my friend.

And here I fancied you a communist of some sort, shame on me. You could only be a capitalist.

Why are you living in thailand again? The states (and your future) beckon, my friend.

I am not a fucking Capitalist. Capitalism is a FAILED ideology. But then I said it was bunk when I was 17 on literally day 1 of MacroEconomics.

Capitalism creates coercive monopolies. It's a paradox capitalism INEVITABLY creates but cannot solve. It's not even complex.

I'm not a fucking Communist either; because ideologies...religion is the opium of the masses. And who said this? A fucking acid dealer named Karl Marx.

I could fix this world. But a lot of demented filth would have to die. Which means, it'll never be fixed. Because religion will keep on creating the same emotionally tortured imbeciles who all kill each other and everyone else in their race to WIN THE WORLD.

They're going to win the world. They're going to win control of 7 billion emotionally insane - screaming - robots. WHOOPTIE DO. Who the fuck would even want to win that.

An emotionally insane - tortured - robot; that's who. Maybe he'll call himself THE SERVANT OF TRUTH, or something equally horrifying.

There isn't a single game theory solution. They corrupted the biological link between the hosts and every single human child born. It's so 'brilliant' how they did this. They just got men to think it was in their interests to take advantage of women. Morons. The joke is on humanity.

The leeching starts very early now. Humanity consists of a tiny handful of sane grownups and billions of children who are all simultaneously being fed upon by filthy shells of nothing. No parent can ever tell you why they had a child, they'll just dribble provably imbecilic and insulting shit because they're in denial about the fact that they had a child because they - need - something to be happy. They've lost their sense of self. So they create children, to love.

Which is another way of saying, they create children to - FEEL - alive. Children will make you feel that way, until you've killed them. At which point, they become leeches.

And round and round the religious imbecility goes. Lies lies and denial. Billions of robots screaming in imagined emotional PAIN.

[Statutory Ape]

Capitalism breeds progress because greedy filthy creeps desire power more than anything, and in this world, money=power, so in the interest of making money, progress happens. It's quite beautiful really, if a bit flawed, but thankfully we (at least in the states) have some kind of hybrid capitalist/socialist thing going that seems to be working, more or less.

I think I've worked you out finally Scute, and that means a lot, at least to me. Get off the dope, get some proper medicine, and be amongst friends. It would do you a lot of good, thailand is literally killing you.

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[SkyNigger]

Capitalism breeds progress because greedy filthy creeps desire power more than anything, and in this world, money=power, so in the interest of making money, progress happens. It's quite beautiful really, if a bit flawed, but thankfully we (at least in the states) have some kind of hybrid capitalist/socialist thing going that seems to be working, more or less.

I think I've worked you out finally Scute, and that means a lot, at least to me. Get off the dope, get some proper medicine, and be amongst friends. It would do you a lot of good, thailand is literally killing you.

Don't tell me what to do you fucking Christian.

Fuck off how many times will I have to point this out to you before you get it through your stupid head.

STOP BEING A FUCKING CREEP. You're not in a position to be handing out life advice and what's more, it's unsolicited.

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Capitalism does not breed progress. Human ingenuity and puzzle-solving breeds progress. Capitalism stifles progress because it places IMBECILIC restrictions on USE.

Copyright.

Patents.

Intellectual property rights.

What is this filthy insulting shit. Taking out legal protection over IDEAS? It makes me want to vomit.

You know the 'rights' to things aren't owned by their inventors; they're owned by filthy leeching capitalist corporations who harvest human ingenuity and the CORPORATIONS own the rights. It's all money money MONEY, and it's demented and filthy and it STIFLES progress.

Coercive monopolies have a vested 'interest' in snuffing out innovation. That's why they're BAD. They're not efficient, but it's far worse than mere control of supply to artificially inflate the price. They're terrorists. They're hijackers. They hold their victims hostage; and they do NOT give up their 'good' thing. You think if someone invented a car that ran on water, or something as miraculous as the combustion engine; the oil companies would stand up and applaud the scientific breakthrough?

If you do, you're an imbecile. But then we knew that already.

Capitalism is the enemy of ingenuity. Money money money. How can sanity AFFORD to compete?
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And stop fucking doing that Christian bullshit, for fuck's sake. You're almost as horrifying as my imbecilic mother; imagining that others need your demented 'insight'. It filthy and disturbing and it creeps the fucking world out. Stop trying to 'help' people with 'advice', who don't fucking need your slobbering over them. I've never requested your demented, ignorant assistance it's NOT WELCOME. You don't know enough about anything to have a clue.

I'm going to get 'ruder' and 'ruder' until you STOP fucking being a moronic creep on this issue. How many times have I fucking told you? A dozen? jesus christ.

Worry about yourself. It's a little overdue.

[gay sex]

oh hey vincenzo no ones reading that so enjoy this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIDj7yV7pUQ

and by no one i mean everyone this is basically an intervention for u

[Statutory Ape]

Scuter, how many inventions have American inventors brought the world? Better question- how much progress, which you now enjoy, has been brought to the world at the hands of american inventors? What percentage, give or take?

And how many inventors did it for free? A very very very tiny percentage, if any.

People come to this country, by and large, to get rich (or at least richer than they were) and the bottom line is that all those "evil" restrictions on ideas you just mentioned (copyrights, patents, intellectual property etc) are put in place for PRECISELY one reason- so that people can protect their ideas, primarily in the interest of making/keeping MONEY.

People mostly think of shit because it might make them wealthy, don't get it twisted.

And I don't give a damn if you solicit my advice or not, in fact, what I said was purely an observation, an OPINION. Shame on me I know, but I tend to want the best for people I give a shit about, and that's just how I'm wired.

My ill-advised and unsolicited opinion is that you might enjoy some time away from your damned apartment in the third world. You can cut my hand again, if you want to, it isn't going to change anything I said, nor how I feel.

[SkyNigger]

And I don't give a damn if you solicit my advice or not, in fact, what I said was purely an observation, an OPINION. Shame on me I know, but I tend to want the best for people I give a shit about, and that's just how I'm wired.

My ill-advised and unsolicited opinion is that you might enjoy some time away from your damned apartment in the third world. You can cut my hand again, if you want to, it isn't going to change anything I said, nor how I feel.

No shit. Because you're everything that is wrong with humanity.

You're too stupid to be plausible, but you think you KNOW everything. You're like my mother. Too stupid to be alive, too demented to die.

If you were female, you'd have half a dozen kids by now.

You just pollute the world with you insanity. You're too lazy to read. All you want to do is argue your stupid insanity. Read what I fucking wrote again. You never provide a sane counter-argument. You just skip over everything relevant to spew your filthy ignorance, again. And again. And...again.

You don't give a damn. I know this. That's why you would need to die for this world to have a chance of life. You only give a damn about arguing because, just like my mother, and just like 90 million Catholic Toddlers in the Philippines, you already KNOW everything.

But you don't know a damn thing, about anything. You just spew insanity and creep out decency with your CONCERN. Your COMPASSION. Your filthy CHILDREN-FUCKING CARE.

"Urinate on others, as you would have them urinate on you."

I'm telling you to stop, you filthy vermin. Go piss on yourself. You're a pox on creativity. All you want to do is rape "women children". You cannot make a counter-argument, all you care about is dribbling your moronic noose and then claiming that you 'lost' a rebuttal that no one wants to read because there isn't a sane rebuttal a Christian has EVER given, to ANYTHING.

You will stop, because I'm not going to. Which means you're going to scream out in pain, whilst I feel nothing. I don't win jack shit, but keep up with your filthy shit and you are going to LOSE badly. Welcome to reality Christian vermin.

Prepare for pain. It's what you want. I can oblige you.

[Statutory Ape]

No shit. Because you're everything that is wrong with humanity.

You're too stupid to be plausible, but you think you KNOW everything. You're like my mother. Too stupid to be alive, too demented to die.

If you were female, you'd have half a dozen kids by now.

You just pollute the world with you insanity. You're too lazy to read. All you want to do is argue your stupid insanity. Read what I fucking wrote again. You never provide a sane counter-argument. You just skip over everything relevant to spew your filthy ignorance, again. And again. And...again.

You don't give a damn. I know this. That's why you would need to die for this world to have a chance of life. You only give a damn about arguing because, just like my mother, and just like 90 million Catholic Toddlers in the Philippines, you already KNOW everything.

But you don't know a damn thing, about anything. You just spew insanity and creep out decency with your CONCERN. Your COMPASSION. Your filthy CHILDREN-FUCKING CARE.

"Urinate on others, as you would have them urinate on you."

I'm telling you to stop, you filthy vermin. Go piss on yourself. You're a pox on creativity. All you want to do is rape "women children". You cannot make a counter-argument, all you care about is dribbling your moronic noose and then claiming that you 'lost' a rebuttal that no one wants to read because there isn't a sane rebuttal a Christian has EVER given, to ANYTHING.

You will stop, because I'm not going to. Which means you're going to scream out in pain, whilst I feel nothing. I don't win jack shit, but keep up with your filthy shit and you are going to LOSE badly. Welcome to reality Christian vermin.

Prepare for pain. It's what you want. I can oblige you.

Oh stop it. It's like 3am over here, and my cat woke me up when she knocked over my damned drinking water, and here you are going on and on about urinating on toddlers or whatever.

By the by, what do you smoke? Cigarettes I mean. I picked up a pack of Marlboro Virginia Blend, they're quite nice and only $3 and change per pack (likely a promo of some kind.)

[SkyNigger]

what do you smoke? Cigarettes I mean. I picked up a pack of Marlboro Virginia Blend, they're quite nice and only $3 and change per pack (likely a promo of some kind.)

Benson & Hedges Mild (4mg) or Dunhill Blues (8mg). They only have Marlboro pretty much in the Philippines though.

[Statutory Ape]

Dunhill Blues, fave of the late Kim Jong Il If I remember correctly. I bought a couple packs, couldn't see spending 8 bucks on the damned things.

Cob had, at one time, actually pointed me toward a knock off dunhill brand that was actually supposed to be quite nice. If I could only remember...

[Bobby Wong]

jesus christ ape, if you're still in the experimental novelty brand smoking phase, just stop it now and don't get yourself involved in yet another addiction

[gay sex]

GRAPE DONT LISTEN TO HIM, HAVE U TRIED CAMEL CRUSHES YET, YOU PINCH THE FILTER AND THEY CHANGE FROM NORMAL TO MENTHOL, TRY THOSE NEXT

[MistaCobalina]

Dunhill Blues, fave of the late Kim Jong Il If I remember correctly. I bought a couple packs, couldn't see spending 8 bucks on the damned things.

Cob had, at one time, actually pointed me toward a knock off dunhill brand that was actually supposed to be quite nice. If I could only remember...


Nat Sherman, and for the record, it's not a knock off dunhill brand. it's superior to dunhills in every conceivable way. Including being sold in card board boxes that, so if some mooch asks for a cigarette, you can open the box, then snap it down hard on their fingers as they try to reach for the smoke.


http://www.cigarettespedia.com/images/e/e4/Nat_sherman_naturals_originals_l_20_b_brown_usa.jp g

[Statutory Ape]

GRAPE DONT LISTEN TO HIM, HAVE U TRIED CAMEL CRUSHES YET, YOU PINCH THE FILTER AND THEY CHANGE FROM NORMAL TO MENTHOL, TRY THOSE NEXT

smoked those off and on for a long time, since they came out really. i rather prefer the mentol though, the funny part is that the crushes are better than actual menthols.

[Statutory Ape]

jesus christ ape, if you're still in the experimental novelty brand smoking phase, just stop it now and don't get yourself involved in yet another addiction

*sigh* I don't smoke a lot, maybe 3-4 cigs a day, off and on. Have since I was maybe 15. I have never smoked more than a half pack a day, and recently went probably 3-4 months without smoking period. I tend to dip when I don't smoke, so it's nicotine one way or the other. Might go for patches, oh wait i'm BROKE so nevermind that idea. Thanks for caring though, I appreciate it.

[Statutory Ape]

Nat Sherman, and for the record, it's not a knock off dunhill brand. it's superior to dunhills in every conceivable way. Including being sold in card board boxes that, so if some mooch asks for a cigarette, you can open the box, then snap it down hard on their fingers as they try to reach for the smoke.


http://www.cigarettespedia.com/images/e/e4/Nat_sherman_naturals_originals_l_20_b_brown_usa.jp g

haha thanks, the local tobacco shoppe has these, I just couldn't remember which ones you recommended.