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Old 02-01-2017, 12:23 PM   #1
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My first Tilapia farm

​​​​Well, what do you do with a goldfish in a half gallon plastic bag in order to keep your 5 and 3 year old daughters from having a traumatic life and death experience?

you keep the darn thing alive, that's what!

I can still picture it, an innocent county fair, a little girl covers her eyes with one hand, throws a ping-pong ball with the other, and oh brother!, we are the proud owners of a "feeder goldfish".

A "feeder" is a fish destined to end up being dinner for a big carnivorous fish.

A trip to the toy store and we had the obligatory "Little Mermaid" one gallon aquarium.

Fast forward 5 years. I have one 45 gallon and one 125 gallon aquarium in my living room as well as a few smaller ones stored in the garage. The kids lost interest in fish ever since "the Lion King" came out and I was NOT about to take them to the zoo, thank you very much!

Who knows what I might have found myself dragging home!

Fast forward another 6 years. I look at the aquariums and say: there has got to be something I can grow in this aquariums that I can actually benefit from, as in edible fish. Hmmm, what to do?

In 2006 I searched the internet and found out about Tilapia;
a fish that up until then I didn't even know existed.

I purchased a breeder set of Hornorum/Mossambica from a retired commercial Aquaculture professional and was very impressed with how easy it was to breed them.

Then I purchased sets of "breeder breeders" so I could market the breeder colonies themselves.

How this happened I have explained several times in different ways.

Unfortunately a former re-seller of my products and current main competitor threatens
to sue me every time!

He has the only other website that I know of selling (or claiming to have!) Hornorum/Mossambica breeder colonies.​​ Well, he is not getting them from me!

He has purchased at least 4 internet domain names with variations of my name, my farm's name and my website's name.

His intention is to "ruin my reputation and make me the most hated man in America"

​To achieve this he hides behind his wife's skirts to bad-mouth me in Facebook, etc.

He hides behind a nearly 80 year old handicapped senior citizen who has had two strokes in order to threaten me with lawsuits.

​Since I do not want to pollute my website with his verbal flatulence I will launch an entirely new website dedicated to him. Look for extensive direct quotes from literally hundreds of harassing, threatening emails and text messages from him.​​

​sorry, back to my story:

In 2010 when I met my wife (see below) I added Blue and Nile Tilapia and in 2014 my house exclusive brand "Tilapia Sunrise".

But wait! There is more! the saga continues, folks!

In mid-2010 I was caught doing good and got what I deserved!

I was volunteering at a non-profit in Dade City, FL that teaches Aquaponics classes
when I met my Mrs. Ladyfish!

I was assisting the instructor one Saturday morning and she was taking the class.

She was mostly interested in the plant side of Aquaponics and I was interested in the fish.

We now own and operate Tilapia Vita Farms on a property that was her late grannie's farm.

​She inherited it when she was caught being a do-gooder!

Please click on Tilapia Vita farms for that story!

I'm telling you! Being good gets you stuff!

Oh, my God! I still have to pinch myself every now and then!

Kim Sanchez, my Ladyfish! I love her!

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Old 02-01-2017, 12:39 PM   #2
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The truth about Tilapia Farming At Home
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Tilapia farming at home is owned by Edgar S., a part-time tilapia farming hobbyist. Here's what he said about himself on his own website back in September of 2008:



He first registered his website domain name on August 7th 2007:



There are no records of any pages appearing on his website until the middle of 2008. This is not unusual, as many people secure their domain names long before they actually add any publicly visible pages.

On September 15th 2008, Tilapiafarmingathome.com had one product for sale:



Here is what Edgar had to say about Mike Sipe on October 2nd 2008:



It looks like Mike Sipe has done incredible things with tilapia. Having Mike as a teacher would definitely give his student some bragging rights. Assuming that everyone believed it was true.

Less than five months after giving Mike (and himself) such great reviews, and only seven months after his pages first appeared in the Internet archive, Mr. S. changed his story about Mr. Sipe:



Gone is the part where Edgar claims that he asked permission from Mike to market his single breeding colonies for home tilapia farming. In it's place are Edgar's thoughts as he processes through an explanation of how "Tilapia Farming at Home was born". He goes on with his claim that Mr. Sipe was in declining health and that it was too difficult for Mike to continue operating his farm or continue "teaching". He repeats his statement about having male and female specimens of Mike's fish, just in case his readers missed it the first time. Then, as if pleading to a overwhelmingly christian jury, uses "fate" like a sign of divine intervention to explain how he came to possess the culmination of 30 years of Mike's work , and what he intends to do with it.

I will never accuse the owner of Tilapiafarmingathome.com of being a thief; it's not for me to decide. I'm only here to present the evidence so that you can decide for yourself. That said, he does openly admit to stealing from others who can't fight back in his writings about Mike Sipe.

Speaking of legalities, it is very convenient that I have been given permission to copy and reproduce anything on his site provided that I give credit to Edgar F. S. (which I am doing now) and supply a link to www.tilapiafarmingathome.com.



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So according to Edgar's confession, his own breeder colonies produce inferior Hornorum / Mossambica hybrids. Something that aquaculture community has been saying since 2008.

He doesn't appear to understand genetics



Edgar apparently didn't read the section in Mike's hatchery manual or on Mike's website, about how chromosomes affect the testosterone and estrogen producing sites within the tilapia? No problem, here's a screen shot from Mike Sipe's hatchery manual on the subject:



Edgar clearly knows how to spell the word Genetics, and repeats it several times throughout his website, however he demonstrates no knowledge of the science.

He isn't really a tilapia farmer

Edgar refers to himself as a tilapia farmer, but it simply isn't true. Edgar already identified himself as being a self-employed as a locksmith in September of 2008.



He raises a few tilapia in his backyard as a hobby. He highlights the fact that his backyard operation is a Florida Department of Agriculture certified facility, but fails to mentions that EVERY person who possesses any tilapia other than Blue has the exact same certification. It's like bragging that you have a driver's license.

He has unrealistic refund and replacement policies

Buying from tilapiafarmingathome.com can be dangerous to your wallet! But only if you lay down and take it.



So if your tilapia die during shipping, you may be responsible for even more shipping charges. If the replacement fish die, you are screwed for the price of the tilapia and possibly two shipping charges. It appears that Edgar is unaware that Paypal instantly grabs the money from the seller as soon as a dispute is started online by a customer.

He over-charges for shipping

As I have said elsewhere on this site, inflating their shipping charges is how many tilapia dealers display a lower cost up front and then make up for it at check-out. This works because a very high percentage of customers don't see the charges or assume that they will be the same no matter where they shop. Tilapia Farming at Home charges $49 and $69 for shipping. These same-sized orders shipped from an actual hatchery (as opposed to a part-time backyard operation) would be free.

He has an inflated view of his contributions to tilapia farming



It appears from Edgar's use of exclamation points, that he strongly believes his own claims to fame. However, there dozens of websites that were up and running for as many as eleven years before his site even existed. Cherrysnapper.com in 1997, miami-aquacuture.com in 1997, tilapiaseed.com in 1999, and americulture.com in 1998 just to name a few. Then again, Edgar knows the truth, because he published this little tidbit in January of 2016:



How can he be the only one on the Internet, if three years prior to his website becoming active, he was finding websites with tilapia for sale and contacting people to buy them? By the way, 2007 was when he purchased his domain, not when he launched his website.

Edgar doesn't know when to quit

Apparently Mr. S. thinks that when you change a webpage, the old version goes away. He doesn't seem to know that everything he puts on the web is archived permanently, just waiting for someone with the skills to dig through them and find the inconsistencies. These archives are a historical record that can even be used in court to establish a persons truthfulness. As a person's story slowly changes over time into what they want everyone to believe, they leave a breadcrumb trail back to the truth, that ultimately becomes their undoing. So let's have a look at Edgar's most recent addition to his website.

Here's a story that Edgar published on his website in January of 2016. As you read it, try to imagine how you would feel having your personal business hung out in public like this, especially if it were true. It gives a clear window into the heartless world of Edgar S.:





If you're like most people possessing a soul, you can't help but be offended by what Edgar S. says on his website. True or not, that kind of writing has no place on a professional website. But then again, that's the whole point of this report: To prove that Tilapiafarmingathome.com is owned by a man who will say anything to grab as much fame-by-association as he can in order to sell his inferior products.

While he was writing the garbage above, he was clearly focused on "proving" that he didn't steal tilapia from Mike Sipe's farm as it has been suggested in the aquaculture community. Fortunately, in the process he lost track of his other claims, making them nearly impossible to believe. For years Edgar has referred to Mike Sipe as his "teacher". And why not, Mike is the world's foremost expert on tilapia genetics and has over 40 years of experience farming tilapia worldwide. Claiming Mike as his teacher has provided Mr. S. with a lot of clout. Without the ability to associate himself with Mike, Edgar goes back to being just another Florida backyard hobbyist selling fish.

In Edgar's latest rant, he set the timeline in 2005, and then advances it a couple of times; first by one week, and then by a few months. He settles down and offers mid-2006. So it seems that somewhere around the end of June in 2006, according to Edgar, he had ALREADY given up on learning any more from Mike Sipe. If that is true, his previous statement about parting ways with Mike Sipe in March of 2008 is a lie.

I was inspired to contact Mike Sipe when I first read this. Mike acknowledged that he hired Edgar S. to work as a gardener after he lost use of his hand following a stroke. Mike was able to do most things, including drive his car, but couldn't comfortably hold string trimmers and experienced some difficulty with the pull-starter on his lawn mover. He said that Edgar only came by every-other Sunday for about six months, no more than a dozen times. After Edgar finished working, Mike spent an hour or so going over his hatchery manual... basically reading the book to him.

In Edgar's story, he claims that Mike's "weed wacker" broke. How exactly does something break itself? According to Mike, Edgar broke his string trimmer after only a few uses. Edgar attempted to blame the trimmer for breaking itself, but the Sipes aeren't that stupid. They told Edgar that he need not return until they had a chance to buy a new one, but Edgar was determined to continue his bi-monthly stops. One can only speculate why Edgar was so insistent on coming to the Sipe's farm, but in the end, Edgar bought a new string trimmer in order to facilitate his ability to walk their property.

I asked Mike about Edgar's version of how he acquired female Hornorum and male Mossambica tilapia. He said without hesitation, "They were stolen"!

Mike Sipe is a college educated expert with 40 years of experience in tilapia genetics. He's the man who Dr. Lovshin called "The father of tilapia". Mike Sipe is the one who traveled to Brazil decades ago to bring back the very first Hornorum tilapia to the United States. The guy who fought and won against the State of Florida for the right to possess tilapia in the first place. The man who Edgar himself refers to as his "teacher" is now reduced in Edgar's version to a bumbling idiot, too stupid to identify the sex of a tilapia, accidentally giving his gardener a breeding pair? Not once, but twice!

There is a happy ending to this story. Mike Sipe has continued his work with Tilapia, and has newly released versions of Hornorum and Mossambica tilapia strains. These next generation breeding tilapia produce all-male hybrids that grow nearly twice as fast as the fish available in 2008!. I urge you to learn more. You are invited to visit Mike Sipes website by touching or clicking here.

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Tilapia biz so scandalous, y'all.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...he-fish-745705

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I LOVE TILAPIA SCAM

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Before you read this Keep in mind that I gave Mike Sipe and his wife Jan Sipe every opportunity to make this right. Only after I found 4 other victims I wrote about the scam. All the other victims told me almost the same story. Some of them was livid and some said that when they threatened to go public or go to the authorities. Mike spammed them with Porn. And sent numerous viruses to their computer once they opened their e-mail. So I used my anti spy ware to catch all their mischievous threats. When I opened their e-mails I had 28 infections caught. I have all my and his e-mails also .,pictures to prove this . If he decides to try and rebutt my claims.

Ilovetilapia.com have a scam that is easy to fall victim to as I have.
I really like Tilapia fish so I decided to look up Tilapia Breeders. I did tons of research which led me to I Love Tilapia and cherry snapper .com . The website on cherrysnapper.com is the website that was ilovetilapia.com Ilovetilapia.com changed their website to be scammer friendly.
So I decided I would buy 2 Colonies of fish which on their website says is 2T hornorum Male Tilapia and 12 O.mossambicas orange Tilapia.

For the price of $699.00 plus $150.00 shipping and handling for a total of $850. For a total of 14 fish. You can go to cherry snapper.com to see. Go under our products.
So the day I was going to buy my fish , I received a call from Mike Sipe. He stated that I would need to send monies Western Union . He told me a story how his website was having trouble and that the credit cards wont go through. I thought this was a little fishy . But this is a 71 or 72 year old man and he seemed to be credible. He then told me that he would send me an extra fish to lure me into his scam . I should now receive 15 fish. He then told me to call the shipper and get a price, The shipper told me $175. After I called the shipper and hung up I received another call from Mike Sipe. He said that the shipper called and the price went up and it was now $286. An extra $111 Dollars. So I sent almost $1,000 dollars. Western Union.

The day of arrival Fed ex.
I opened the box and there was 2 bags one bag had 4 fish and two was dead. The other bag had 6 fish and all was alive. That is a total of 10 fish with 2 dead. So I received 8 fish total. On their website it states they gaurantee live arrival only. I also received one sick fish. It has a huge white fungus on its lip.so that is SICK FISH horrible..
So sure enough I tried to call and like clockwork their phone was busy. It stayed busy for 3 days. I took pictures of all this and got it on video.

I finally called and Jan Sipe answered. I told her about what happened and she YELLED I dont need This Sh_t . Sorry for you readers I only spelled it part way. I then spoke to Mike Sipe. He said that the website is messed up and that the webmaster made a mistake. He said that the website should say 2 males and 10 females. Even though I know he is lying He still shorted me my fish. I forgot to tell you that I was also supposed to get Orange massambicas females and I didnt. I asked Jan and Mike Sipe to email me an invoice and they havent still to this day. So being a novice fish farmer I didnt at the time know what he even sent me. They could have been gold fish for all I know. He also told me that all his fish are sold out that I would have to wait 4 weeks to get more fish. Well 4 weeks went by and so did my money. His wife tries to claim that he has dementia . So please excuse him. If he has dementia he shouldnt be in business. I also got a story that he had a bad winter and that was to blame. I am sick of his and her lies.

I gave Mike and Jan an opportunity to make this good and now they just dont answer my calls or just hang up.
So DONT BUY FISH FROM ILOVETILAPIA.COM OR CHERRYSNAPER.COM .
It is a known fact that Mike Sipe has sent sick fish before. It is all public record.
I also found 4 other victims that all have been duped by this man and woman

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